Do you realize how much greatness lies within you? In this episode, Kevin talks with Dave Durand about the mindset and virtues necessary for leading others effectively and ethically in today’s complex world. Dave describes the concept of giants, those we lead who have incredible potential, and stresses that leading them involves creating an environment that promotes autonomy, impact, and growth. He shares his four core virtues: prudence, justice, fortitude, and temperance. He clarifies that these are not outdated ideals but timeless strengths that help leaders make better decisions, act fairly, demonstrate courage, and maintain self-control. They also discuss building a strong leadership pipeline, succession planning, and why the goal of any great leader should be to become irrelevant.
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00:00 Introduction and episode overview
01:10 Flexible leadership and guest introduction
03:10 Dave’s journey to leadership
05:01 Defining a giant
06:20 Leadership and influence
09:21 Four virtues as leadership superpowers
12:06 Prudence
13:53 Justice
15:13 Fortitude
17:29 Temperance
19:34 Building a deep bench
24:44 Why are we working overtime
27:44 Optimizing personality for leadership
30:06 What Dave does for fun
31:03 What Dave is reading
32:05 Final thoughts and encouragement
Meet Dave
Dave's Story: Dave Durand is the author of Leading Giants: A Leader’s Guide to Maximum Influence. He is a 9-figure founder, keynote speaker, bestselling author, award-winning CEO of Leading Giants, and Executive Chairman of Best Version Media. He has over three decades of experience in leadership and entrepreneurship. He has built and sold multiple businesses, which have collectively done over one billion dollars in sales. Dave is also a trainer of over 150,000 individuals, ranging from Fortune 500 executives and CEOs to small business owners and sales representatives. His leadership culture and focus on humility have earned recognition from major organizations, including Glassdoor, Fortune, Great Place to Work, and Top Workplaces USA.
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