How can leaders evolve from simply managing tasks to inspiring their teams? Hans-Werner Kaas suggests it takes more than technical expertise. He joins Kevin to discuss what it means to lead from the inside out, understanding yourself first to effectively lead others. He highlights the importance of human-centric leadership, emphasizing the need for self-awareness, humility, and resilience. Hans-Werner talks about the transition from the "imperial CEO" of the past to today's leaders, who must be more versatile, empathetic, and collaborative. He also shares advice on how to get honest feedback from your team.
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00:08 Introduction and Overview
01:26 Kevin Introduces Hans-Werner Kaas
02:30 Hans-Werner’s Career Journey
03:32 From Engineering to Leadership Consulting
05:26 Opening McKinsey’s Detroit Office
06:04 Insights on Leadership and Inspirational Leadership
07:53 Introduction to ‘The Journey of Leadership’ Book
09:08 The Fall of the Imperial CEO
12:04 Human-Centric Leadership
12:52 Leading from the Inside Out
16:04 Self-Assessment and Feedback for Leaders
19:24 Importance of Humility in Leadership
21:01 Versatility and Leadership Flexibility
24:51 Applying Leadership Traits in Organizations
25:21 The Role of Boldness and Empowerment
26:24 Fearless Learning with Navy SEAL Insights
29:56 Lessons for Non-CEOs
32:21 Hans-Werner’s Personal Interests and Hobbies
34:52 Books and Reading Recommendations
37:06 Closing Remarks and How to Learn More
38:57 Kevin’s Final Thoughts: Taking Action
Meet Hans-Werner
Hans-Werner's Story: Hans-Werner Kaas is the co-author of the new book The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out. He is the co-dean of the CEO leadership program “The Bower Forum,” a former member of its Global Client Council, and a senior partner emeritus at McKinsey. In 1991, he joined McKinsey’s Frankfurt office, moved to the Cleveland office in 1997 and co-founded the Detroit office in 1998. He works with and counsels CEOs and leaders across multiple industry sectors globally.
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